Comments for The Feminist Pit Bull Blog http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com Let's put the *CHOMP* on Patriarchy by using our minds! Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:20:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on On Babies and Vampires, Revisited: My Post of July 3rd on Thinking Girl’s Thread–and a Modified Article by hrithik http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/on-babies-and-vampires-revisited-my-post-of-july-3rd-on-thinking-girls-thread-and-a-modified-article/#comment-896 hrithik Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:20:17 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/on-babies-and-vampires-revisited-my-post-of-july-3rd-on-thinking-girls-thread-and-a-modified-article/#comment-896 <strong>Scarred, issuing a warning to hrithik:</strong> While your comment was civil, it contained information on a controversial member of the PUA community that was not necessary for publishing. I appreciate the effort to reach out, but the last thing I want for my blog is for it to turn into a gossip column. I don't allow this. We discuss ideas in the Comment section. Scarred, issuing a warning to hrithik: While your comment was civil, it contained information on a controversial member of the PUA community that was not necessary for publishing. I appreciate the effort to reach out, but the last thing I want for my blog is for it to turn into a gossip column. I don’t allow this. We discuss ideas in the Comment section.

]]> Comment on On PUAs, Mind Control, and Patriarchy: Why I Started This Blog (Introduction) by Jay C.M. http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/on-puas-mind-control-and-patriarchy-why-i-started-this-blog-introduction/#comment-894 Jay C.M. Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:30:03 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/on-puas-mind-control-and-patriarchy-why-i-started-this-blog-introduction/#comment-894 <strong>Scarred, issuing a warning to Jay C.M.</strong> Uh, if you think your commentary on my supposed mindset was welcome, accurate, or helpful, you're shit outta luck here. You need to work on yourself instead of coming to someone else's blog to psychoanalyze them. What you did was the equivalent of walking into someone's house and taking a dump on the living room carpet, all in the name of "trying to be helpful." If you really think I'm going to give much of a tinker's damn about how PU isn't "really" manipulative, this is also a serious delusion. Go back and read my blog again **very carefully.** And if you still have issues with what I'm doing, well, too bad, so sad; this ain't the blog for you then, now is it? If you want me to let your posts through, take your presumptions and your privilege and check them at the door. Otherwise, don't bother to post, because I won't allow your comments. Scarred, issuing a warning to Jay C.M. Uh, if you think your commentary on my supposed mindset was welcome, accurate, or helpful, you’re shit outta luck here. You need to work on yourself instead of coming to someone else’s blog to psychoanalyze them. What you did was the equivalent of walking into someone’s house and taking a dump on the living room carpet, all in the name of “trying to be helpful.”

If you really think I’m going to give much of a tinker’s damn about how PU isn’t “really” manipulative, this is also a serious delusion. Go back and read my blog again **very carefully.** And if you still have issues with what I’m doing, well, too bad, so sad; this ain’t the blog for you then, now is it? If you want me to let your posts through, take your presumptions and your privilege and check them at the door. Otherwise, don’t bother to post, because I won’t allow your comments.

]]> Comment on A thread for discussing Elana Clift’s Thesis “Picking Up and Acting Out: Politics of Masculinity in the Seduction Community” by hrithik http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/a-thread-for-discussing-elana-clifts-thesis-picking-up-and-acting-out-politics-of-masculinity-in-the-seduction-community/#comment-881 hrithik Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:09:00 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/a-thread-for-discussing-elana-clifts-thesis-picking-up-and-acting-out-politics-of-masculinity-in-the-seduction-community/#comment-881 "“The bros before the hos…” That’s an **actual** saying." ..just wanted to point out, scarred, that there's also "chicks before dicks" - that's ALSO "an **actual** saying"..it works both ways.. <strong>Scarred</strong>: you say this to say what? If you want to pretend patriarchy doesn't exist, go elsewhere, not this blog. If you can't contribute to the discussion of ideas, count yourself out. Talk down to someone else, and shop it elsewhere, because I'm not buying. ““The bros before the hos…” That’s an **actual** saying.”

..just wanted to point out, scarred, that there’s also “chicks before dicks” – that’s ALSO “an **actual** saying”..it works both ways..

Scarred: you say this to say what?

If you want to pretend patriarchy doesn’t exist, go elsewhere, not this blog. If you can’t contribute to the discussion of ideas, count yourself out. Talk down to someone else, and shop it elsewhere, because I’m not buying.

]]> Comment on Beware the Open-Ended Question: an Opportunity for Anchors! by hrithik http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/beware-the-open-ended-question-an-opportunity-for-anchors/#comment-879 hrithik Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:00:17 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/beware-the-open-ended-question-an-opportunity-for-anchors/#comment-879 Hopefully you give my counter-points some semi-fair attention, hm? <strong>Scarred: why should I, when you haven't given any of my ideas any fair attention??? Tell you what: you're banned. Your comments will be treated like the spam they are. That's all the attention they deserve. Waste someone else's time. Hopefully you give my counter-points some semi-fair attention, hm?

Scarred: why should I, when you haven’t given any of my ideas any fair attention???

Tell you what: you’re banned. Your comments will be treated like the spam they are. That’s all the attention they deserve. Waste someone else’s time.

]]> Comment on Methods of Resisting Pick-Up Artists, Advertising, and other Manipulators by Danny http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/methods-of-resisting-pick-up-artists-advertising-and-other-manipulators/#comment-858 Danny Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:51:28 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/methods-of-resisting-pick-up-artists-advertising-and-other-manipulators/#comment-858 They love the show at this site. They called the girls here neo-feminists. http://www.vh1.com/interact/boards/main.jhtml/the_pick_up_artist/ThreadList?offset=0&_requestid=745135 <strong>Scarred: Danny, please explain yourself more thoroughly. I'm willing to examine some of the ideas put forth by the women on this site, but I need a much more specific thread detailing what the positions of these "neofeminists" are. I think I *get* what you're saying, mainly that some women genuinely don't have a problem with what PUAs are doing. My response to this is that this is because mental and emotional manipulation is so rife in this culture that people literally can't recognize it as abuse anymore, which is more of a sad commentary on modern humanity rather than on the inaccuracy of my basic position. Some would hold that to be arrogant, but any opinion on any position in this screwy world of ours is an act of hubris, IMHO. They love the show at this site. They called the girls here neo-feminists.

http://www.vh1.com/interact/boards/main.jhtml/the_pick_up_artist/ThreadList?offset=0&_requestid=745135

Scarred: Danny, please explain yourself more thoroughly. I’m willing to examine some of the ideas put forth by the women on this site, but I need a much more specific thread detailing what the positions of these “neofeminists” are. I think I *get* what you’re saying, mainly that some women genuinely don’t have a problem with what PUAs are doing. My response to this is that this is because mental and emotional manipulation is so rife in this culture that people literally can’t recognize it as abuse anymore, which is more of a sad commentary on modern humanity rather than on the inaccuracy of my basic position. Some would hold that to be arrogant, but any opinion on any position in this screwy world of ours is an act of hubris, IMHO.

]]> Comment on On PUAs, Mind Control, and Patriarchy: Why Go After PUAism? (Part 1) by RealLiveRedHead http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/on-puas-mind-control-and-patriarchy-why-go-after-puaism-part-1/#comment-844 RealLiveRedHead Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:54:04 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/on-puas-mind-control-and-patriarchy-why-go-after-puaism-part-1/#comment-844 Hi. So glad to see the discussion here. Love the writing; think it's great. I just wanted to let you know that a pua by the name of Odious has posted a link to this article on the VH-1 message board for the show, The Pickup Artist. His goal is to get other puas to mock it. I just wanted to let you know that you may be getting spammed here. I also wanted to give you the chance to post there if you'd like. You can find more info about this Odious character at the alt.seduction.fast message boards. He's very argumentative and his opinion of women is very low. Keep up the good work. :) <strong>Scarred: Thank you for your support; I appreciate it.:) Just an FYI: I have no intention of posting on the message board for the show. Others can mock my blog and attempt to spam it to their heart's content if they wish: I'm about as interested in their opinions as I am in the grease spots on the side streets in my neighborhood. After responding and editing about three or four comments, I figured that some weasels were getting their fur ruffled, and it's time for me to ignore them. Threatened PUAs can bray to their heart's content: this is standard operating procedure for jackasses. My advice is, don't argue or worry: post countermethods and protections.:) Hey, yeah, I invite you to post your own!:) Soon, I'll be returning to regular blogging: I expect this in the next 1-2 days. Remember, the more your enemies jeer, the more fear they're showing.:) And **any** publicity is **good** publicity.:) Hi. So glad to see the discussion here. Love the writing; think it’s great. I just wanted to let you know that a pua by the name of Odious has posted a link to this article on the VH-1 message board for the show, The Pickup Artist. His goal is to get other puas to mock it. I just wanted to let you know that you may be getting spammed here. I also wanted to give you the chance to post there if you’d like. You can find more info about this Odious character at the alt.seduction.fast message boards. He’s very argumentative and his opinion of women is very low.

Keep up the good work. :)

Scarred: Thank you for your support; I appreciate it.:)

Just an FYI: I have no intention of posting on the message board for the show. Others can mock my blog and attempt to spam it to their heart’s content if they wish: I’m about as interested in their opinions as I am in the grease spots on the side streets in my neighborhood. After responding and editing about three or four comments, I figured that some weasels were getting their fur ruffled, and it’s time for me to ignore them. Threatened PUAs can bray to their heart’s content: this is standard operating procedure for jackasses. My advice is, don’t argue or worry: post countermethods and protections.:) Hey, yeah, I invite you to post your own!:)

Soon, I’ll be returning to regular blogging: I expect this in the next 1-2 days. Remember, the more your enemies jeer, the more fear they’re showing.:) And **any** publicity is **good** publicity.:)

]]> Comment on About This Blog by Essa Morty http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/about-this-blog/#comment-841 Essa Morty Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:20:00 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/about-this-blog/#comment-841 when they say it's ove. Essa Morty. <strong>Scarred: you know, I'll post this comment, if nothing else, because I love puns, and because this was cute.:) Okay, I'll allow this.:) when they say it’s ove. Essa Morty.

Scarred: you know, I’ll post this comment, if nothing else, because I love puns, and because this was cute.:) Okay, I’ll allow this.:)

]]> Comment on Just a point of note: moving this weekend by thinking girl http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/just-a-point-of-note-moving-this-weekend/#comment-813 thinking girl Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:50:06 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/just-a-point-of-note-moving-this-weekend/#comment-813 hey Scarred: good luck with the move, and settling in! As you know, I recently did that myself (two weeks! hard to beleive!), and I know it's very busy and not a lot of fun at first. so best of luck, try not to do too much (I know, I'm one to talk), and come let us know how you make out! L&S, TG hey Scarred:

good luck with the move, and settling in! As you know, I recently did that myself (two weeks! hard to beleive!), and I know it’s very busy and not a lot of fun at first. so best of luck, try not to do too much (I know, I’m one to talk), and come let us know how you make out!

L&S,
TG

]]> Comment on Opinion Policy of This Blog by Islam http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/opinion-policy-of-this-blog/#comment-807 Islam Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:13:43 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/opinion-policy-of-this-blog/#comment-807 Islam (Arabic: al-’islam (helpinfo)) is a monotheistic religion originating with the teachings of Muhammad, a 7th-century Arab religious and political figure. The word Islam means “submission”, or the total surrender of oneself to God (Arabic: Allah). An adherent of Islam is known as a Muslim, meaning “one who submits (to God)”. There are between 0.9 and 1.4 billion Muslims, making Islam the second-largest religion in the world, after Christianity.

]]> Comment on A thread for discussing Elana Clift’s Thesis “Picking Up and Acting Out: Politics of Masculinity in the Seduction Community” by Eurosabra http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/a-thread-for-discussing-elana-clifts-thesis-picking-up-and-acting-out-politics-of-masculinity-in-the-seduction-community/#comment-790 Eurosabra Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:59:57 +0000 http://feministpitbull.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/a-thread-for-discussing-elana-clifts-thesis-picking-up-and-acting-out-politics-of-masculinity-in-the-seduction-community/#comment-790 Well, then they're not going to have much success, since PU is explicitly hetero, since the feminist critique of PU is that it replicates patriarchal gendered power relationships between men and women, providing the erotic "oomph" that comes from the inscription of dominance as male/masculine and submission as female/feminine. I have a bit of experience with the use of NLP in PU, and I'd say that it's a type of soft persuasion, easily resisted--the person you're leading still has to value or desire the type of experience you're leading him/her to. All it can do is shut down conscious barriers for a while, and you still have to be a master hypnotist to pull it off. At least this has been a productive discussion away from the usual tropes of "entitlement", "exploitation", etc. Well, then they’re not going to have much success, since PU is explicitly hetero, since the feminist critique of PU is that it replicates patriarchal gendered power relationships between men and women, providing the erotic “oomph” that comes from the inscription of dominance as male/masculine and submission as female/feminine.

I have a bit of experience with the use of NLP in PU, and I’d say that it’s a type of soft persuasion, easily resisted–the person you’re leading still has to value or desire the type of experience you’re leading him/her to. All it can do is shut down conscious barriers for a while, and you still have to be a master hypnotist to pull it off.

At least this has been a productive discussion away from the usual tropes of “entitlement”, “exploitation”, etc.

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